1 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:04,550 okay i did not expect to make a video 2 00:00:07,829 --> 00:00:06,080 today but 3 00:00:09,190 --> 00:00:07,839 after reading this new york times 4 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:09,200 article 5 00:00:16,390 --> 00:00:13,120 i felt i needed to speak up and 6 00:00:18,790 --> 00:00:16,400 whenever i'm inspired i usually do audio 7 00:00:20,630 --> 00:00:18,800 and in this case video so 8 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:20,640 the new york times did another article 9 00:00:25,029 --> 00:00:22,000 on ufos 10 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:25,039 about the new pentagon effort that 11 00:00:30,470 --> 00:00:28,240 we spoke about on the last live 12 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:30,480 show and um i'll go over some of that 13 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:33,120 stuff again for people who missed it 14 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:35,520 whenever i do live i feel like i'm i'm 15 00:00:39,990 --> 00:00:37,920 rushing because i feel like people have 16 00:00:41,350 --> 00:00:40,000 taken their time to watch live so i need 17 00:00:43,110 --> 00:00:41,360 to get to the point 18 00:00:44,549 --> 00:00:43,120 with this one i'm going to tell you 19 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:44,559 right now i'm gonna take my time a 20 00:00:48,069 --> 00:00:46,000 little bit so i'm gonna go over some of 21 00:00:51,910 --> 00:00:48,079 the same material but i'll start off 22 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:51,920 early on i have some new information 23 00:00:56,069 --> 00:00:54,719 which is relevant to this article and 24 00:00:58,470 --> 00:00:56,079 what we've been talking about for the 25 00:01:02,069 --> 00:00:58,480 past few weeks anyway the new york times 26 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:02,079 has done some great articles since 2017 27 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:04,159 but only when leslie kane ralph 28 00:01:08,710 --> 00:01:06,640 blumenthal and helene cooper write them 29 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:08,720 or just ralph and leslie but then you 30 00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:10,880 have julian barnes 31 00:01:14,230 --> 00:01:13,439 and when he does a ufo article recently 32 00:01:16,310 --> 00:01:14,240 it's 33 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:16,320 usually not good and you'll see 34 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:18,320 um so i'll read i also have some videos 35 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:20,320 which will be a little clunky getting in 36 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:21,759 and out 37 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,230 it's definitely you need to watch them 38 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:28,320 to see why i feel the way i do and i'm 39 00:01:31,990 --> 00:01:29,920 sure some other folks already know what 40 00:01:33,429 --> 00:01:32,000 i'm going to talk about anyway so here's 41 00:01:36,469 --> 00:01:33,439 the article 42 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:36,479 the pentagon forms a group to examine 43 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:37,840 unexplained 44 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:39,439 aerial sightings 45 00:01:43,749 --> 00:01:41,439 the announcement follows a report that 46 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:43,759 failed to clarify strange phenomena 47 00:01:49,270 --> 00:01:46,079 observed by military pilots 48 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:49,280 and others over the past two decades 49 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:50,880 let's move this around a little bit so 50 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:57,270 uh here's a picture and it says the new 51 00:02:01,670 --> 00:01:59,040 group overseen by the military and the 52 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:01,680 intelligence agencies will focus on 53 00:02:07,030 --> 00:02:04,479 special use airspace which includes 54 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:07,040 military operations areas 55 00:02:11,910 --> 00:02:08,640 and so basically they're focusing 56 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:11,920 focusing on one specific area 57 00:02:14,869 --> 00:02:12,959 um 58 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:14,879 i know i've i've complained about that 59 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:17,040 and other people have too but i mean 60 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:19,440 that's that's fine if they to start out 61 00:02:22,949 --> 00:02:21,120 that's where they're focusing 62 00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:22,959 obviously there are sightings everywhere 63 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:27,030 in the 180-day 64 00:02:30,949 --> 00:02:29,840 dni report it said a lot of the reports 65 00:02:32,949 --> 00:02:30,959 are coming from 66 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:32,959 you know sensitive areas because that's 67 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:34,879 where we have most of our sensors you 68 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:37,519 know we have our f-18s you know 69 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:39,120 maybe we have our satellites pointed 70 00:02:43,350 --> 00:02:41,360 there so that's why you're seeing more 71 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:43,360 of those sightings encounters picked up 72 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,319 on various sensors of course we all know 73 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:48,239 these things happen all over the world 74 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:50,400 and not just in sensitive military 75 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:52,720 airspace 76 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:54,879 so this is by julene barnes 77 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:56,879 published on the 24th updated on the 78 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:58,640 25th he says 79 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:00,720 washington the pentagon on tuesday night 80 00:03:05,589 --> 00:03:03,120 announced a new group to investigate 81 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:05,599 reports of unidentified aerial phenomena 82 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:08,080 in sensitive areas work that will be 83 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:10,239 overseen by both the military and the 84 00:03:14,869 --> 00:03:13,120 intelligence agencies and by the way i 85 00:03:17,190 --> 00:03:14,879 know you can't ask me questions here but 86 00:03:19,750 --> 00:03:17,200 i'll make sure i i will try 87 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:19,760 to do at least an hour a week where i'll 88 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:21,360 just go live and you guys ask whatever 89 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:23,120 questions you want anything doesn't have 90 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:25,440 to be ufos 91 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:26,640 it could be 92 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:28,480 about my personal life if you're curious 93 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,390 so he continues 94 00:03:41,509 --> 00:03:38,710 the group will lead an effort to quote 95 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:41,519 detect identify and attribute 96 00:03:46,869 --> 00:03:44,319 objects unquote in restricted restricted 97 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:46,879 airspace as well as mitigate any threats 98 00:03:50,710 --> 00:03:48,720 to military flights 99 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:50,720 fine with that 100 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:52,480 and it's it's threats because you know 101 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:54,400 we're talking about the pentagon here if 102 00:03:57,190 --> 00:03:56,239 you want something to examine what this 103 00:03:59,589 --> 00:03:57,200 means 104 00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:59,599 existentially for humanity 105 00:04:04,710 --> 00:04:00,959 we need to go outside of the government 106 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:04,720 which elizondo has spoken about before 107 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:06,799 the announcement follows the release of 108 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:09,360 a report in june that failed to provide 109 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:12,720 explanations of 143 sightings of strange 110 00:04:17,509 --> 00:04:15,360 phenomena by military pilots and others 111 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:17,519 over the past two decades 112 00:04:22,230 --> 00:04:20,160 and we know it was 144 sightings they 113 00:04:25,510 --> 00:04:22,240 looked at one of them was a balloon the 114 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:25,520 other 143 were unexplained 115 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:28,720 that report frustrated some inside the 116 00:04:32,870 --> 00:04:30,960 intelligence community who believed more 117 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:32,880 analysis and research should have been 118 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:35,280 done to try to categor categorize and 119 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:37,120 explain the phenomena we know at least 120 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:38,639 two of those people 121 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:39,360 are 122 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:43,440 luis elizondo and christopher mellon 123 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:45,040 releasing a report that said the 124 00:04:49,830 --> 00:04:47,360 sightings were unexplained further drove 125 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:49,840 theories that the videos or pictures 126 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:52,720 could be visitors from space a theory 127 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:55,520 that few in the u.s government take 128 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:57,440 seriously 129 00:05:02,150 --> 00:05:00,479 i don't know what he means by few but 130 00:05:03,749 --> 00:05:02,160 i'm pretty confident there are people in 131 00:05:05,189 --> 00:05:03,759 the u.s government that take it very 132 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:05,199 seriously even though they don't speak 133 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:07,360 about it publicly 134 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:09,360 i would think the majority don't or they 135 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:11,600 either they don't know about the data or 136 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:12,720 they don't even want they don't even 137 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:13,919 want to look at the data and yeah they 138 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:16,000 don't take it seriously but 139 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:17,360 i think it may be a little more than 140 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:19,840 what he's he's uh 141 00:05:25,990 --> 00:05:23,520 insinuating in that paragraph 142 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:26,000 kathleen h hicks the deputy defense 143 00:05:30,469 --> 00:05:27,680 secretary said the new group would be 144 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:30,479 called the airborne object 145 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,400 identification and management 146 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:34,479 synchronization group 147 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:37,360 the worst acronym in government history 148 00:05:41,110 --> 00:05:39,120 it will be overseen by an executive 149 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:41,120 council made up of the under secretary 150 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:42,320 of defense 151 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:44,720 for intelligence the director of the 152 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:47,280 joint staff and senior officials from 153 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,280 the office of the director of national 154 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:51,360 intelligence 155 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:53,759 the group will focus on special use 156 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:55,039 airspace 157 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:57,840 which includes military operations areas 158 00:06:02,550 --> 00:05:59,840 and by by the way 159 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:02,560 that's that's fine you know 160 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:04,080 the group will be overseen by an 161 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:05,759 executive council 162 00:06:09,270 --> 00:06:07,520 the under secretary of defense for 163 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:09,280 intelligence the director of the joint 164 00:06:12,870 --> 00:06:11,199 staff you know these are senior people 165 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:12,880 and senior officials from the office of 166 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:14,400 the director of national intelligence 167 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:15,680 that's great 168 00:06:20,070 --> 00:06:17,280 if we didn't have the gillibrand 169 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:20,080 amendment which we can go over later the 170 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:22,160 group will focus on special use airspace 171 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:25,520 which includes military operations air 172 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:28,240 military operations areas firing ranges 173 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:30,080 and places restricted restricted for 174 00:06:35,670 --> 00:06:32,960 national security and other uses in a 175 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:35,680 memo dr hicks said unidentified aerial 176 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:36,880 phenomena 177 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:39,039 in special use areas represented a 178 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,680 potential safety issue for military 179 00:06:46,629 --> 00:06:43,440 pilots and raised 180 00:06:48,790 --> 00:06:46,639 potential national security concerns 181 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:48,800 i do not disagree with that that's the 182 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,560 basic basic thing that ufos represent at 183 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:54,240 the very basic level it's a safety 184 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:56,160 flight issue for our military pilots and 185 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:58,400 for civilian pilots 186 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:00,960 and depending on what they are no matter 187 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:02,639 what they are there's potential national 188 00:07:07,909 --> 00:07:04,880 security concerns even if even if it did 189 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:07,919 turn out it was russia and china that's 190 00:07:12,469 --> 00:07:10,240 national security that's a national cons 191 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:12,479 security concern and if it turned out to 192 00:07:16,710 --> 00:07:14,160 be reptilians 193 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:16,720 or whoever with you know with 194 00:07:20,309 --> 00:07:18,560 an intent that we don't know about 195 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:20,319 that's a potential national security 196 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:22,080 concern 197 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:24,160 uh in june the office of the director of 198 00:07:27,909 --> 00:07:26,000 national intelligence released a report 199 00:07:29,189 --> 00:07:27,919 that reviewed unidentified aerial 200 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:29,199 phenomena 201 00:07:35,350 --> 00:07:32,800 seen since 2004 noting that 144 remained 202 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:35,360 unexplained 203 00:07:39,749 --> 00:07:37,520 of those 21 reports 204 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:39,759 involving 18 episodes 205 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:42,639 no sorry of those 206 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:45,680 21 reports involving 18 episodes 207 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:47,039 possibly 208 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:49,520 demonstrated technological know-how 209 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:51,840 unknown to the united states 210 00:07:56,230 --> 00:07:54,160 such as objects moving without 211 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:56,240 observable propulsion 212 00:08:00,790 --> 00:07:58,240 or with rapid acceleration that is 213 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:00,800 believed to be beyond the capabilities 214 00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:03,280 of russia china or other terrestrial 215 00:08:16,390 --> 00:08:11,990 he goes on he does a grab from the 216 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:19,749 and he he left out one thing 217 00:08:24,309 --> 00:08:22,319 if i can pull it up 218 00:08:27,110 --> 00:08:24,319 which i don't want to 219 00:08:28,629 --> 00:08:27,120 yeah he he left out one thing where 220 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:28,639 he's talking about 221 00:08:32,389 --> 00:08:30,000 how many 222 00:08:33,670 --> 00:08:32,399 exhibited some of those 223 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:33,680 exotic 224 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:39,909 he did not say unless he says later on 225 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:43,599 he says of the 144 reports 143 because 226 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:45,120 one was explained 227 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:47,360 80 of those reports involved observation 228 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:49,360 with multiple sensors so basically it 229 00:08:53,509 --> 00:08:51,360 shows those are physical objects that's 230 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:53,519 what the report said and then it said 231 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:56,880 after in 18 incidents described in 21 232 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:59,920 reports observers reported unusual uap 233 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:01,760 movement patterns or flight 234 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:04,880 characteristics i assume one of those is 235 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:06,560 contained within 236 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:07,360 the 237 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:09,519 23 minute video that lou has spoken 238 00:09:15,509 --> 00:09:12,640 about several times which obviously we 239 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:19,590 so back to the new york times article 240 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:21,829 government officials said privately that 241 00:09:27,670 --> 00:09:24,800 there was no evidence of russian or 242 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:27,680 chinese advanced technology and use 243 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:30,959 much less space traveling aliens 244 00:09:35,829 --> 00:09:33,120 in the information collected so this 245 00:09:37,590 --> 00:09:35,839 that's great you know 246 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:37,600 part is great 247 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:39,120 he spoke to sources who told him 248 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:40,160 privately 249 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:41,760 there's no evidence any of that was 250 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:44,399 russian or chinese 251 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:45,920 um 252 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:47,040 but then 253 00:09:50,949 --> 00:09:49,120 you know we don't know what it is and he 254 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:50,959 kind of he throws cold water he goes 255 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:51,839 much 256 00:09:58,150 --> 00:09:55,839 space traveling aliens of course of 257 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:58,160 course we don't know and folks who take 258 00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:00,000 to seriously don't automatically say 259 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:02,560 these are space traveling aliens uh 260 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:05,760 other is fine non-human obviously has to 261 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:08,240 be considered uh 262 00:10:11,430 --> 00:10:09,600 so 263 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:11,440 it's just it's just it's just a little 264 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:13,920 veiled shot that is not needed 265 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:16,240 but if you know if officials told him 266 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:18,399 that those are his sources then he's 267 00:10:22,470 --> 00:10:20,160 reported this reporting his sources but 268 00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:22,480 there are other sources who did not 269 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:24,000 agree with that because i've spoken with 270 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:25,920 some of them 271 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:28,640 uh the officials acknowledged that the 272 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:29,839 government's 273 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:32,320 and i should clarify i haven't spoken to 274 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:34,240 people 275 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:35,680 no i'll leave it the way it is i'll 276 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:37,519 leave that the way it is because there's 277 00:10:40,550 --> 00:10:39,040 a different definition of what 278 00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:40,560 constitutes 279 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:42,800 a government official so i'll just say 280 00:10:48,550 --> 00:10:46,949 but the officials 281 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:48,560 acknowledged that the government's 282 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:50,720 failure to provide much explanation will 283 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:54,720 would fuel a wide range of theories 284 00:11:01,910 --> 00:10:58,320 some more conspiratorial than others 285 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:01,920 yeah well when you cannot rule out 286 00:11:05,430 --> 00:11:03,920 non-human obviously if you read the 287 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:05,440 report 288 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:06,880 there are going to be a lot of theories 289 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:09,040 not necessarily conspiratorial i would 290 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:10,800 say common sense 291 00:11:14,230 --> 00:11:12,320 of course 292 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:14,240 everybody thinks okay they can't explain 293 00:11:19,269 --> 00:11:16,640 it they say it's probably not russia 294 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:19,279 china or our own black technology what 295 00:11:22,630 --> 00:11:21,200 does that leave i mean 296 00:11:24,949 --> 00:11:22,640 you know 297 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:24,959 extraterrestrial interdimensional all of 298 00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:26,480 those are on the you know should be on 299 00:11:32,710 --> 00:11:30,079 the table so it's not conspiratorial 300 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:32,720 i see that as another jab 301 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:34,560 but nothing close to the worst part of 302 00:11:37,829 --> 00:11:36,240 this article so he goes while the 303 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:37,839 unexplained sightings were mostly around 304 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:39,839 military installations or operations the 305 00:11:43,110 --> 00:11:41,360 report said it could be the result of 306 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:43,120 collection bias which i talked about 307 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:44,480 earlier that's where we have all of our 308 00:11:48,949 --> 00:11:46,560 sensors our best sensors 309 00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:48,959 or the presence of cutting edge sensors 310 00:11:56,310 --> 00:11:54,470 some people believe any phenomenon 311 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:56,320 exhibiting technology beyond the 312 00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:58,560 abilities of the united states needs 313 00:12:01,430 --> 00:11:59,920 deep study 314 00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:01,440 let's read that again 315 00:12:06,790 --> 00:12:04,800 some people believe any phenomenon 316 00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:06,800 exhibiting technology beyond the 317 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:09,120 abilities of the united states needs 318 00:12:13,670 --> 00:12:11,519 deep study shouldn't that be all people 319 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:13,680 i mean if there's phenomena exiting 320 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:16,720 exhibiting technology that we don't have 321 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:18,399 everybody's interested in figuring out 322 00:12:22,710 --> 00:12:20,800 what that is not just uh well maybe 323 00:12:24,790 --> 00:12:22,720 we'll figure it out next year but in the 324 00:12:26,069 --> 00:12:24,800 meantime who cares 325 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:26,079 i don't i don't understand how you can 326 00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:27,600 write something like that with a serious 327 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:28,480 face 328 00:12:31,829 --> 00:12:30,000 um 329 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:31,839 some people believe that though yeah i'm 330 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:34,720 sure i'm sure some people do but 331 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:36,480 who are these people 332 00:12:41,030 --> 00:12:38,800 skeptics believe most or all of the 333 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:41,040 sightings including videos recorded by 334 00:12:45,590 --> 00:12:43,440 cameras on military fighter jets can be 335 00:12:47,829 --> 00:12:45,600 explained by tricks of optics or 336 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:47,839 naturally occurring phenomena 337 00:12:51,910 --> 00:12:49,680 yeah skeptics must think our government 338 00:12:54,550 --> 00:12:51,920 is a bunch of idiots skeptics seth 339 00:12:56,629 --> 00:12:54,560 showstack it's a it's a computer glitch 340 00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:56,639 uh seth they saw that saw it with their 341 00:12:59,990 --> 00:12:58,000 own eyes 342 00:13:02,150 --> 00:13:00,000 you know just specifically the tic tac 343 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:02,160 incident so 344 00:13:07,750 --> 00:13:04,800 you know screw the skeptics i'm sorry um 345 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:07,760 i'm not saying every every case is 346 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:09,360 unexplainable 347 00:13:13,509 --> 00:13:11,760 but unless a lot of people are lying to 348 00:13:14,949 --> 00:13:13,519 us and i do not think that's the case 349 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:14,959 whether it's lou 350 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:16,880 christopher mellon eric davis how put 351 00:13:19,269 --> 00:13:17,680 off 352 00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:19,279 um 353 00:13:22,550 --> 00:13:21,279 all of those folks and especially lou 354 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:22,560 i've spoken specifically about the 355 00:13:26,629 --> 00:13:24,720 23-minute video where he gave 356 00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:26,639 he said it's uh it's a game changer and 357 00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:28,720 it would be game over if people saw it 358 00:13:33,990 --> 00:13:31,040 so and also there was enough being shown 359 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:34,000 to rubio and warner and gillibrand that 360 00:13:38,870 --> 00:13:37,200 were getting language about ufos 361 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:38,880 in the national defense authorization 362 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:40,560 act so obviously they're being shown 363 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:42,480 things and heinrich was the most clear 364 00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:44,560 saying i don't think it's ours so unless 365 00:13:49,269 --> 00:13:46,160 you think everybody's part of this 366 00:13:51,110 --> 00:13:49,279 conspiracy it's really china and it's a 367 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:51,120 conspiracy to trick people and trick 368 00:13:55,189 --> 00:13:53,040 china into russia and russia into 369 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:55,199 thinking we we're studying ufos if you 370 00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:56,560 think that 371 00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:58,639 yeah i guess everybody's lying then but 372 00:14:01,430 --> 00:14:00,079 i just to me it makes no sense 373 00:14:03,990 --> 00:14:01,440 whatsoever and i'm not even talking 374 00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:04,000 about i'm not even mentioning every name 375 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:10,389 earlier this month 376 00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:12,720 avril d haynes the director of national 377 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:14,320 intelligence said the government needed 378 00:14:18,949 --> 00:14:16,000 to get better at collecting information 379 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:18,959 about the unexplained phenomenon 380 00:14:22,230 --> 00:14:20,240 no problem with that the better 381 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:22,240 technology we have the better sensors 382 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:24,320 the better for everybody you know 383 00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:26,000 although i i think 384 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:28,079 the data they have right now is enough 385 00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:30,079 to convince probably everybody if 386 00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:32,240 they've if they were able to see it or 387 00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:33,600 access it 388 00:14:36,389 --> 00:14:34,639 that 389 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:36,399 this is not our attack and it's not 390 00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:39,040 russia or china and it's something 391 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:41,279 intelligent and 392 00:14:45,269 --> 00:14:43,760 not of any government on this planet any 393 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:45,279 known government i'll just say that i'm 394 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:46,720 trying to leave open the possibility 395 00:14:52,069 --> 00:14:49,360 that it's human but you know not you 396 00:14:53,189 --> 00:14:52,079 know with no oversight you know the 397 00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:53,199 the 398 00:15:00,949 --> 00:14:58,959 richard dolan talks about 399 00:15:02,310 --> 00:15:00,959 the breakaway civilization i'm leaving 400 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:02,320 open the possibilities for everything 401 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:09,189 now the blogger's going crazy 402 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:46,629 and i'll be back one second 403 00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:48,069 sorry about that 404 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:50,720 the dog loves the deliveries amazon 405 00:15:58,870 --> 00:15:51,920 especially 406 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:00,310 you need to get better collecting 407 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:02,639 information that's fine 408 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,880 ms haynes said the primary focus 409 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:06,959 remained on whether the phenomenon were 410 00:16:11,590 --> 00:16:09,120 aircraft from rival nations spying on 411 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:11,600 the united states the united states 412 00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:13,759 but held open the possibility of 413 00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:17,519 otherworldly explanations 414 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:19,839 that's fine 415 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:21,600 although if they really don't know if 416 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:23,360 this is russia or china at this point 417 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:24,880 that means our 418 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:27,839 dod is pathetic i just i don't see it 419 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,199 unless 420 00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:31,120 they're intentionally lying to us 421 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,480 because they want to trick china or 422 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:34,800 russia that's the skeptic argument i 423 00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:36,560 don't believe that and 424 00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:39,040 if i'm wrong 425 00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:42,959 out of the ufo business 426 00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:45,199 i don't think i'm wrong i don't think 427 00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:46,800 everybody i've spoken to and everybody 428 00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:48,720 that we've heard publicly speak is lying 429 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:51,279 about this 430 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:53,360 so she's open to other worldly 431 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,120 explanations like that's great you know 432 00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:57,279 he included that 433 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:58,399 quote 434 00:17:02,870 --> 00:16:59,920 and then he he's quoting from the 435 00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:02,880 national cathedral event 436 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:08,069 i'm gonna i'm gonna actually go to that 437 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:09,760 because i have that 438 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:13,120 let me pull it up so you can listen 439 00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,000 i will stop screening there and i will 440 00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:18,240 share 441 00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:20,000 my chrome tab 442 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:23,439 this is from a few weeks ago 443 00:17:31,669 --> 00:17:29,669 so that was that 444 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:31,679 and i'll put my earplug in so i can hear 445 00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:37,029 so this is what she said uh here's the 446 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:39,679 question too i lead in the question 447 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:41,280 so uh 448 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:44,880 dna hands on this topic of life out 449 00:17:51,630 --> 00:17:48,000 there you issued an extraordinary 450 00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:51,640 preliminary assessment in june on 451 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:54,720 unidentified aerial phenomena this is 452 00:18:00,870 --> 00:17:57,360 the new term of art to summarize that 453 00:18:02,390 --> 00:18:00,880 report you studied 144 reports from u.s 454 00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:02,400 government sources 455 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:05,360 80 had multiple sensors that had made 456 00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:07,600 the identifications in 18 of these 457 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:09,360 instances 458 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:12,000 observers i'm quoting reported unusual 459 00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,720 uap flight characteristics 460 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:16,799 you sorted these into five different 461 00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:17,840 bins 462 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:20,559 the last call just other 463 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:22,960 i want to ask you to share with the 464 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:25,440 audience your takeaway after the 465 00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:28,960 completion of that report and what your 466 00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:31,760 own view is as you look at the evidence 467 00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:33,520 yeah i mean i think the bottom line is 468 00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:35,039 that we don't understand everything that 469 00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:36,799 we're seeing and that's probably not 470 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:39,280 surprising to anybody in many respects 471 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:42,320 but it is it was a report that really 472 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:44,000 congress asked us to 473 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:46,720 produce a report that assessed what we 474 00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:48,640 saw as the threat essentially from an 475 00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:50,799 unidentified aerial phenomenon 476 00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:52,720 and uh what our sort of best 477 00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:54,320 understanding was of the different 478 00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:56,480 reports that we had identified and it 479 00:19:00,789 --> 00:18:59,120 stretched over from i think 2004 through 480 00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:00,799 to 2021 481 00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:02,480 the different reports that you identify 482 00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:05,039 that you indicated 144 of them and we 483 00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:07,679 had different categories as you said so 484 00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:09,600 one of them was airborne clutter another 485 00:19:13,909 --> 00:19:11,679 was natural 486 00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:13,919 you know phenomenon 487 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:15,440 another was 488 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,000 foreign adversaries a 489 00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:20,000 fourth one was 490 00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:22,320 related to sort of u.s government or 491 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:24,799 industry developmental programs and then 492 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:26,880 the fifth one was other 493 00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:29,679 and that basically indicated that we 494 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:31,280 were pretty sure we weren't going to be 495 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:33,280 able to characterize every single one of 496 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:35,919 these reports in the various categories 497 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:38,080 that we'd identified because frankly we 498 00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:40,240 were not able to understand everything 499 00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:41,600 about it and 500 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:43,679 a large portion of that is based on the 501 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:45,520 fact that we don't have a consistent way 502 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:47,600 of reporting this information we need to 503 00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:49,840 integrate frankly a lot of data that we 504 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:51,600 get we need to get better at collecting 505 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,440 information that's useful to us from 506 00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:55,280 different sensors 507 00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,280 that are available to us and we have to 508 00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,280 deepen our analysis in these areas and 509 00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:01,919 that's something that you know frankly 510 00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,679 probably also doesn't surprise you in 511 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:05,280 the sense that that's how we typically 512 00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:07,600 approach our intelligence work 513 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:10,000 and the main issues that congress and 514 00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:11,440 others have been concerned about are 515 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,440 basically safety of flight concerns and 516 00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:14,960 counter intelligence issues but of 517 00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:17,679 course there's always the question of is 518 00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:19,280 there something else that we simply do 519 00:20:22,190 --> 00:20:20,880 not understand that might come 520 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:22,200 extraterrestrial 521 00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:27,440 let me just ask a a follow up 522 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:29,679 question 523 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:32,799 by the way i mean 524 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:35,200 she's obvious to me it's obvious she was 525 00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,280 uncomfortable saying that word um and 526 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:39,120 nervous because it's a big step for 527 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:41,679 somebody like her to say 528 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:44,400 you never know i mean they could be ets 529 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:45,280 i mean 530 00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:46,559 i don't recall and i might have 531 00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:48,080 downplayed this when i first heard it 532 00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:50,000 because i have my expectations high it 533 00:20:55,789 --> 00:20:54,559 sometimes but you never know it could be 534 00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,799 extra 535 00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:57,440 terrestrially 536 00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:58,880 um 537 00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:01,440 it's a big deal you know 538 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,240 i would love it if she said or who knows 539 00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,000 they could be on you know they could be 540 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:08,720 based on this planet and we just haven't 541 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:10,480 noticed them until now because our 542 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:13,520 sensors weren't as you know 543 00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:15,440 weren't as advanced as they were in the 544 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:17,520 past so we may share the planet with 545 00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:18,799 these folks and 546 00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:20,799 we may be we may be below them on the 547 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:22,799 food chain but don't tell anybody that 548 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,679 because that's kind of scary um i would 549 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,520 never expect that but it would be nice 550 00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,960 to hear something besides just 551 00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,480 extraterrestrial 552 00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:32,080 i'll just finish the rest of what she 553 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,270 but some others have been concerned 554 00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:39,039 about are basically safety of flight 555 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,960 concerns and counterintelligence issues 556 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:42,240 but of course there's always the 557 00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,679 question of 558 00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,360 is there something else that we simply 559 00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:47,120 do not understand that might come 560 00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:50,240 extraterrestrial extraterrestrially so 561 00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:53,679 let me just ask a a follow up 562 00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:57,280 question cookie stop i'd love to hear 563 00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:00,320 your comments about what the trade craft 564 00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:01,280 of 565 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:04,240 uap detection is 566 00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:05,919 how we'll know 567 00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:07,760 what we know 568 00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:09,919 how would we know if we were being 569 00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:12,400 observed for example that's i find a 570 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:13,679 question people 571 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,440 pose to me often uh in the weeks before 572 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,679 this this session 573 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:21,600 it's a great question that's that's why 574 00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:24,320 crash retrievals are so important 575 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:26,480 that ends the debate if we have craft 576 00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,720 and we have non-humans or what appear to 577 00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:30,480 be non-humans inside and we have those 578 00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:31,520 bodies 579 00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:33,679 the debate is over they're observing us 580 00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:35,120 or they're interacting with us or 581 00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:36,640 they're visiting this planet one or the 582 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,520 other 583 00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,520 um but it was a good question what is 584 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:41,360 the tradecraft 585 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,240 for 586 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:46,080 unidentified aerial phenomenon than it 587 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,919 is for the rest of our work in the 588 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:49,600 intelligence community which is to say 589 00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:50,640 that 590 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,640 i think it is a little different um if 591 00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:54,720 you have objects that 592 00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:57,200 you cannot even catch if they take off 593 00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:58,559 at a high rate of speed then there's no 594 00:23:02,710 --> 00:22:59,679 way to know 595 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,720 what's inside unless they crash or you 596 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:04,320 or you shoot one down i think it's a 597 00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:05,840 little different than if you see a 598 00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:09,039 russian mig you know 599 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,440 and our f-18s are chasing it so i think 600 00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:13,360 it's a little different uh a lot 601 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,559 different 602 00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:16,640 you know we do our work very much as i 603 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:19,520 was indicating we we sort of you know 604 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:21,760 collect all of the information we can 605 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:24,000 through a variety of different sensors 606 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:25,760 people are reporting things we're 607 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,080 picking up things technically we're 608 00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:29,760 doing a variety of work to try to 609 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:31,840 understand what it is that we're seeing 610 00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,080 we are then taking other information 611 00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:36,720 that we have to determine is it 612 00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:39,200 something that we know about in that 613 00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,279 area is there some other reporting that 614 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:43,279 we might not normally think of as being 615 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,320 connected and then we do our analysis as 616 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,480 we normally would to sort of say okay 617 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:50,640 put it into context what are the likely 618 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:53,520 possible options how do we characterize 619 00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,760 it bucket it and think about it 620 00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:58,080 all of that is sort of the standard way 621 00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,679 in which you work but it doesn't mean 622 00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:01,520 that 623 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,919 to tell if we're being observed under 624 00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:07,840 the circumstance i mean i think there's 625 00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:09,440 a lot of different ways in which that 626 00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:10,400 might 627 00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:13,360 be revealed but certainly we're working 628 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,200 to make sure that we understand what we 629 00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:17,760 do see and what phenomenon is identified 630 00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:19,279 and otherwise 631 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,200 we're going to have to wait for 632 00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,840 bill's science work i think to actually 633 00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:25,279 reveal some of these additional 634 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:27,120 possibilities not to mention some of the 635 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,640 other people that i think you'll talk to 636 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:30,640 later today 637 00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,400 okay so that's all she said on uap 638 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:36,159 her main comments i don't remember if 639 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,520 she said anything else but that was it 640 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:39,440 and the big point was there's always the 641 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:40,720 possibility that we're dealing with 642 00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:45,510 and 643 00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:48,480 so back to the 644 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:50,720 article in the new york times by julian 645 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:51,760 barnes 646 00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,360 which i will pull up and this is where 647 00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:57,120 i really don't understand 648 00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,480 his reporting here 649 00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:02,640 pentagon forms a group okay 650 00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,990 he's quoting haynes from that same 651 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:09,279 from what we just watched he goes the 652 00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:11,520 main issues haynes says the main issues 653 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:12,960 that congress and others have been 654 00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:15,679 concerned about are basically 655 00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:18,960 safety of flight concerns and counter 656 00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:21,840 intelligence issues she said 657 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:23,600 but of course there's always the 658 00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:24,720 question of 659 00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:27,279 is there something else that we simply 660 00:25:30,669 --> 00:25:29,120 do not understand 661 00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:30,679 that might come 662 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,559 extraterrestrially and she stumbled on 663 00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,080 that word 664 00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:36,559 now here's the here's the classic julian 665 00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:39,279 barnes line after reading several of his 666 00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,350 ms haines extraterrestrial remark 667 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,120 was not necessarily 668 00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,840 not necessarily referring to space 669 00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:53,360 aliens 670 00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,320 first of all 671 00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,240 just throw in non-human intelligence 672 00:26:01,029 --> 00:26:00,080 right there and make it serious instead 673 00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:01,039 of 674 00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:03,200 it's obviously a salacious word uh 675 00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:06,559 phrase space aliens come on 676 00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:08,480 miss haines's ms haynes's 677 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:09,919 extraterrestrial remark was not 678 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:12,080 necessarily referring to space aliens 679 00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:13,760 but rather 680 00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:17,120 more pedestrian explanations such as 681 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:18,400 such 682 00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:23,520 solar flares that could impact flight 683 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,830 okay 684 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:28,960 so 685 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:30,720 where is he getting that from first of 686 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,720 all this is not an op-ed this is 687 00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,480 reporting 688 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,159 where's the quote where's the quote from 689 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:39,120 her or any source that says by the way 690 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:40,960 mr barnes 691 00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:45,190 we know what she's talking about and 692 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:47,679 it's not extraterrestrial space aliens 693 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,080 no no no she's talking about meteors and 694 00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,480 solar flares 695 00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:53,919 that's what she's talking about and 696 00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,559 those could impact flight safety issues 697 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,080 so she's talking about meteors 698 00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:04,720 or solar flares 699 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:05,600 and 700 00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:08,480 what i have to say about that 701 00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:17,269 you can't be serious man you cannot be 702 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,399 serious 703 00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,720 that ball was on the line 704 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,480 sharks blew up 705 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:24,720 it was clearly it 706 00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,440 how can you possibly call that out 707 00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:29,279 how many you can miss 708 00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,279 now he's walking over everyone knows 709 00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:33,600 it's in this whole stadium and you call 710 00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:34,640 it out 711 00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:37,279 explain that to me will you 712 00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:39,919 exactly so that's how i felt when i 713 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:42,320 watched 714 00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,880 when i read that article 715 00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,520 you cannot be serious you cannot be 716 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,159 serious please explain that to me 717 00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:51,840 uh i'd love to get julian barnes to 718 00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:54,559 explain that to us because 719 00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:55,919 it's one of the most ridiculous things 720 00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:58,240 i've read unless i'm missing something 721 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:02,000 maybe i'm missing something uh 722 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:05,360 that uh that i overlooked but to me 723 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,600 it actually makes no sense whatsoever 724 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,600 him just for him to say that 725 00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,200 all right i'll finish it 726 00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,360 for years a military 727 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:15,600 intelligence official luis elizondo ran 728 00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:17,200 a little notice group within the 729 00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,880 pentagon nobody noticed them yeah 730 00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,360 because it was it was a closed program 731 00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:23,919 starting out and he says you know barnes 732 00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,919 says the program within the pentagon 733 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:27,919 little little noticed there's a little 734 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,320 jab called the advanced aerospace threat 735 00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,279 identification program 736 00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,679 he says nothing about james lutkatsky 737 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,240 who's a rocket scientist running 738 00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,840 the 739 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:42,240 advanced aerospace weapon system 740 00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:44,399 applications program awesome says 741 00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:45,919 nothing about that 742 00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,480 you know this is not 2017. we now know 743 00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:50,559 about asap the book has come out 744 00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:53,440 why did you not talk about ossep mr 745 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:54,720 barnes 746 00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:56,080 the pentagon has said the program was 747 00:29:01,990 --> 00:28:59,919 shut down in 2012 asap started in 2008 748 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:02,000 september i believe and went to december 749 00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:03,440 of 2010 750 00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,880 and somewhere in there 751 00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,960 atip started going to 752 00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,159 whether or not it was an official 753 00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,480 program it was working with military 754 00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,640 sightings of ufos 755 00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,880 and as far as we know lou has said other 756 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,440 people who have worked in the program 757 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:19,360 uh eric davis said to 758 00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,880 to um 759 00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,880 stephen greenstreet on that 760 00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:24,399 the basement office yeah it was 761 00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,600 continuing to go and it had a new name 762 00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:28,880 at the time we didn't know the name but 763 00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,880 it was the uap task force it morphed 764 00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:31,919 into that 765 00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:34,159 atip morphin morphed into the uap task 766 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,919 force 767 00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:37,200 and he says 768 00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,960 backers of the program said its work 769 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,480 continued and i'm gonna have to take a 770 00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,480 break here 771 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,320 because the dog is about to go crazy so 772 00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:46,159 just a heads up i'm not even close to 773 00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,679 being done pentagon has said the program 774 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:49,919 was shut down in 2012 but backers of the 775 00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,960 program said its work continued in 2020 776 00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,559 the pentagon announced it had a new 777 00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:56,880 group the unidentified aerial phenomenon 778 00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:01,510 remember 779 00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:02,559 there we go 780 00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:14,710 in the meantime 781 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,650 photos 782 00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:23,990 [Music] 783 00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:27,279 all right so i'm live okay 784 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:28,720 not live but i'm recording so just 785 00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:31,360 ignore me for now 786 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,200 oh all right 787 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:35,120 hopefully all that audio came out let me 788 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,830 the end of the article 789 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,350 hopefully you guys are enjoying this i 790 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:47,520 forgot to put up my patreon information 791 00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:50,640 as usual what else is new 792 00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,880 um the memo released by dr hicks said 793 00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:54,159 the task force would immediately 794 00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,919 transition to the new synchronization 795 00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,519 group 796 00:31:01,430 --> 00:31:00,159 like if this was 2017 797 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,440 and we had never heard of the new york 798 00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:03,519 times article in the three videos 799 00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:05,279 we'd all be so excited to hear about 800 00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:07,039 this 801 00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:08,640 he writes the oversight council will 802 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:10,399 choose an acting director for the new 803 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,279 group and issue guidance subject to dr 804 00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,360 hicks's approval she said 805 00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:17,039 the new director will have the power to 806 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:21,600 standardize incident reporting of uap 807 00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,240 ask the overs ask to oversee the 808 00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,399 analysis of data on the unexplained 809 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,279 sightings and identify shortfalls in 810 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,360 detection capabilities so that's the 811 00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,360 article 812 00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:35,039 like i said the one thing that stands 813 00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,269 haynes was only talking about meteors 814 00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:42,000 and solar flares folks come on 815 00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:43,279 guys should be i'm sorry you should be 816 00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,000 embarrassed for writing that um now i 817 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,240 will get to for some reason we have 818 00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:50,960 public comments via twitter 819 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:53,360 from luis elizondo and how he felt about 820 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,640 this new office 821 00:32:00,149 --> 00:31:58,399 running out of the office of the 822 00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,159 undersecretary of defense for 823 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:02,399 intelligence and 824 00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,840 i think also it's 825 00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:05,519 and security 826 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:07,760 is the last part of that acronym 827 00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,559 o-u-s-d-i-s 828 00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,159 i think 829 00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:14,960 so 830 00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:17,679 why couldn't uh barnes have put 831 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,360 luis elizondo's response i mean 832 00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:21,200 alexander ran the program 833 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:22,720 you quoted you know 834 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:25,120 you mentioned him in your article 835 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:26,880 so this is what lou said for those who 836 00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:33,110 if i could find it 837 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:36,480 and i am struggling to find it darn it 838 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:44,950 no is not it oh let me please find it if 839 00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:47,279 not i'll just read it 840 00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:49,600 share screen 841 00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:50,720 window 842 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:54,559 photos and it's not showing up darn it 843 00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,200 see how this works there we go 844 00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:59,600 get rid of me 845 00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:00,399 so 846 00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,200 lou wrote a couple of tweets 847 00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:05,519 after the report came out about this new 848 00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,240 pentagon office he says important update 849 00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,480 before anyone gets too excited 850 00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:12,159 about the recent pentagon announcement 851 00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,480 of the new uap group please consider the 852 00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:16,240 following 853 00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:17,760 the under secretary of defense for 854 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:19,679 intelligence is precisely the same 855 00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:21,760 organization that has underplayed and 856 00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:25,200 tried to kill the uap effort for years 857 00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:27,840 usdi has is an oversight organization 858 00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:30,000 and non-operational 859 00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,679 nowhere is there a requirement to 860 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,360 provide unclassified findings to 861 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:35,279 congress or work with our international 862 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:36,880 partners 863 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:39,279 given that elements still exist in the 864 00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:41,120 pentagon who are actively underplaying 865 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,360 the significance of this topic 866 00:33:48,149 --> 00:33:45,600 this is akin to giving an alcoholic the 867 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,159 key and control to the liquor cabinet 868 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:50,080 if you want to maintain the uap ufo 869 00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:53,440 secrecy this is exactly how to do it 870 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:56,000 this is a direct and blatant attempt to 871 00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:58,480 circumvent and undermine the senate and 872 00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:00,880 then he tags senator gillibrand senator 873 00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:03,440 rubio senator reuben gallego martin 874 00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,079 heinrich and senator heinrich and um 875 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,399 representative tim burchette and others 876 00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:12,320 and also there's 877 00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:14,480 there's one more senator senator who's 878 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,919 involved in this and i forget the name 879 00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:17,760 off-hand 880 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,760 lou finishes up by saying please please 881 00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,839 please contact your representatives and 882 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:23,599 let them know this is this is this is 883 00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:25,520 unacceptable and not in the best 884 00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:28,240 interest of the american people the usdi 885 00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:29,599 is the one single office that has 886 00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:32,480 continuously lied about this topic and 887 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:35,919 persecuted whistleblowers 888 00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:36,800 so 889 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:41,359 chris mellon's letter to gallego related 890 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:42,800 to this 891 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:47,190 i'm gonna 892 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:49,200 follow up what lou said 893 00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,919 from a source of mind who told me 894 00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:53,760 the office of the under secretary of 895 00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:55,760 defense for intelligence is basically 896 00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,760 the front for the religious 897 00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,839 fundamentalists 898 00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:01,440 really great source and i had that 899 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:03,599 follow follow followed up today by 900 00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:05,280 another source who said the same exact 901 00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,320 thing 902 00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:08,640 so they agree with that first source 903 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,920 and 904 00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:11,680 sorry about the background noise folks 905 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,839 um 906 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:15,200 the religious fundamentalist so 907 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,480 basically he's talking about he's 908 00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,960 talking about what everybody knows as 909 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:21,440 the collins elite a loosely organized 910 00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,440 group organized organized group not 911 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:25,119 really officially i don't have a name 912 00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,640 they don't have jackets saying colin's 913 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,400 elite but you know religious folks who 914 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,720 think this is demonic and should not be 915 00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:32,640 studied 916 00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:34,079 um 917 00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:34,960 so 918 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,440 before i get to chris mellon's letter to 919 00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:39,040 gallego which i do want to read i did 920 00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:42,240 not read last time i want to read 921 00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:48,470 i'm not gonna quote because it's from a 922 00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:50,960 source recently 923 00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:53,200 and i want to tell you what this person 924 00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,320 said i'm gonna paraphrase this is what i 925 00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,480 was in my headline is this going to be 926 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,800 this office the pentagon is 927 00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:02,800 is putting forth is is this going to be 928 00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:06,950 so 929 00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,030 that they 930 00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:14,800 acquired the same independently 931 00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,400 independently acquired the same 932 00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:18,960 information that luis elizondo did about 933 00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:20,480 the office of the undersecretary of 934 00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:23,520 defense for intelligence in other words 935 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:25,040 everything lou said this person agreed 936 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,960 with hicks's order to create the new uap 937 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,320 office within 938 00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,119 the ousdi 939 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:35,359 is an ill-advised premature move before 940 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:38,640 congress passes the ndaa 941 00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:42,000 this aoi msg that's the most important 942 00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,960 part 943 00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:45,119 this new office will most likely be very 944 00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,320 temporary because the ndaa language for 945 00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:51,119 creating a new uap program office 946 00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:54,400 somewhere will supersede the new office 947 00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,040 at the ousdi 948 00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,680 uh ns and security 949 00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,680 in other words once again 950 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:03,040 the gila brand amendment if that 951 00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:04,240 language makes it in it's gonna 952 00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:06,320 supersede anything that the pentagon is 953 00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:08,000 doing that's what this person is saying 954 00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:10,000 most likely it's going to be a temporary 955 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,119 office so if that's true we can all you 956 00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:15,440 know take a deep breath 957 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,960 and as far as 958 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:18,960 the gila brand 959 00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:21,200 effort her amendment 960 00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:22,880 i'll close i'll close with that let me 961 00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:24,960 just i'll read what christopher mellon 962 00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:26,960 said i think you guys are aware the gila 963 00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,720 brand amendment is very strong you know 964 00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:30,160 basically calls for going out in the 965 00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:32,960 field investigating cases look at health 966 00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:35,359 related effects from ufos uh crash 967 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,880 retrievals you know do we have any of 968 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,880 that material are we back engineering it 969 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:40,880 stuff that we really want to see 970 00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,440 um so christopher mellon 971 00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:45,440 that kind of language was first brought 972 00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:48,800 up brought up by representative 973 00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:55,349 christopher mellon took the time to 974 00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:57,440 write him a letter now i want to read 975 00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:03,430 so here we go 976 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,640 so it's from christopher mellon's 977 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,920 website 978 00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:07,680 it says dear representative gallego i'm 979 00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:10,720 writing as an admirer and supporter who 980 00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,119 deeply shares your concerns about the 981 00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:16,160 uap issue in 2017 i was shocked to learn 982 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:18,079 the us navy pilots had been encountering 983 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:20,960 uap and restricted airspace on a regular 984 00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,000 basis 985 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,839 and nobody was reporting it much less 986 00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:25,680 doing anything about it 987 00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,839 senior dod and intelligence officials 988 00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:29,440 congress and the american public were 989 00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:35,589 he was one of the people unaware too 990 00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:37,119 until he found i don't know how he found 991 00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:38,720 lou's office but he found it he was able 992 00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:40,880 to get ready after he got all the proper 993 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,359 clearances and all the tickets and lou 994 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,440 said he did not think melon would be 995 00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:47,119 able to get all that stuff but he got it 996 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,640 he got it pretty quickly so that tells 997 00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,480 you something about christopher mellon 998 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:52,320 he has the right contacts to get what is 999 00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:53,680 needed to find out about whatever 1000 00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,920 program he wants to find out about 1001 00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,520 and he did not know about that program 1002 00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:58,960 and it surprised him he did not know 1003 00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:01,359 about atip 1004 00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,040 so mellon says i therefore worked with 1005 00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,839 louis elizondo of the usdi staff 1006 00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,119 to try to get this extraordinary 1007 00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:09,040 information to secretary mattis we knew 1008 00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,560 that almost anyone below that level 1009 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,640 would likely shunt the issue aside in 1010 00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:14,320 quash 1011 00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,560 after a number of months we realized we 1012 00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:20,079 were not going to be able to inform 1013 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:21,599 secretary mattis 1014 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,920 after some deliberation we decided this 1015 00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,160 was simply too important to ignore 1016 00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,400 lou resigned from osd in protest and 1017 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,320 shortly after thereafter i delivered two 1018 00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:32,880 authentic but unclassified dod 1019 00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,359 uap videos to the new york times 1020 00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,040 another video i provided later 1021 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:39,599 accompanied an op-ed and that was the 1022 00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:41,440 other video that came later was the go 1023 00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:43,839 fast the first two were tic tac 1024 00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,240 flair one slash flare one and the gimbal 1025 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,560 i later provided that other video and an 1026 00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:52,400 op-ed to the washington post since that 1027 00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,839 time lou and i have done a history 1028 00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:55,520 channel doctor series 60 minutes and 1029 00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:57,359 innumerable interviews to help raise 1030 00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:58,400 awareness 1031 00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:00,079 lou is the one who's done numeral 1032 00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:02,480 innumerable interviews just too many to 1033 00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,319 count right now 1034 00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,560 i was there for and melon has done some 1035 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,079 too and not anywhere close to what lou 1036 00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,920 has i was therefore thrilled when i 1037 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,440 heard you had offered an amendment to 1038 00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,760 establish a permanent dod focal point 1039 00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:16,000 for the uap issue so gallego came first 1040 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,190 my excitement grew further when i read 1041 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,599 the gillibrand amendment as a former 1042 00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:25,520 senate armed services committee senate 1043 00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,680 select committee intelligence and osd 1044 00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:29,520 staffer and one of the two people most 1045 00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,680 responsible for alerting congress i hope 1046 00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:33,040 that you will consider the following 1047 00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,720 observations 1048 00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:36,240 there's no contradiction between your 1049 00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,839 bill's language and senator gillibrand's 1050 00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:39,440 amendment 1051 00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:42,800 the administration to decide where this 1052 00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:44,960 new capability will reside 1053 00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:46,640 regardless of the new location many 1054 00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,480 gillibrand amendment provisions are 1055 00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,160 critical if we are to make headway 1056 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,160 understanding this phenomenon the 1057 00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:54,720 gillibrand amendment 1058 00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,800 authorizes already appropriated space 1059 00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:58,480 defense and intelligence funds to be 1060 00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,280 used for uap related activities so the 1061 00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:02,960 funding is there 1062 00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,079 hence while osd continues ineffectually 1063 00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:08,000 shuffling paper as they have been for 1064 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:08,960 years 1065 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:11,520 action orientated organizations with 1066 00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,480 funding 1067 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:14,560 contracting authority and technical 1068 00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,280 expertise can begin working 1069 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:19,680 is the osd staff going to identify the 1070 00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:22,880 most telling uap signatures for dod 1071 00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:25,599 and the internet in 1072 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:27,440 the intelligence community systems to 1073 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:28,880 search for 1074 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:31,440 clearly not that expertise resides in 1075 00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:35,440 organizations like nro and the ssdp i 1076 00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:37,040 looked that up before 1077 00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,680 google it ssdp you'll see it's space 1078 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,920 related i think it's satellite space 1079 00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:43,680 related um 1080 00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:45,920 this is the authority gives dod and its 1081 00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,160 components much needed flexibility so 1082 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,920 they don't have to wait another year to 1083 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,520 get moving 1084 00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:53,040 so the gila brand amendment also 1085 00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:54,560 requires the development and 1086 00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,480 implementation of a plan for collection 1087 00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,640 and analysis the current approach is 1088 00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:00,640 equivalent to saying let's monitor 1089 00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,960 chinese weapons development by ensuring 1090 00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:04,960 any random detection of chinese missiles 1091 00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,839 or aircraft is duly reported 1092 00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,160 that's obviously a passive ineffectual 1093 00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:12,480 approach at a minimum congress should 1094 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,880 require any successor to the uap task 1095 00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,720 force to develop the science and 1096 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,359 collection and analysis plans called for 1097 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,440 by the gila brand amendment that simply 1098 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:23,200 needs to be done 1099 00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,400 the driller brand amendment would 1100 00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:25,680 maintain the requirement for 1101 00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:28,319 unclassified uap reporting a huge plus 1102 00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,400 for transparency and accountability 1103 00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,400 it would be shameful it would be 1104 00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,160 shameful to retreat from the recent 1105 00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:36,400 progress that has been made in providing 1106 00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:38,240 sunlight and transparency for the 1107 00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:39,520 taxpayer 1108 00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,400 visibility ensures accountability 1109 00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:44,160 the gila brand amendment builds bridges 1110 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:46,160 to the scientific community this is a 1111 00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,440 win-win for science and the dod 1112 00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,680 it directs the uap task force or its 1113 00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,079 successor to examine closely related 1114 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,400 technical issues such as non-combustion 1115 00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,280 propulsion and the physical effects that 1116 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,280 can result from close proximity 1117 00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,520 proximity exposure to uap 1118 00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:06,000 these efforts can contribute 1119 00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,520 substantially to our understanding of 1120 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:11,200 the phenomenon 1121 00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:14,160 and by the way as i said the other day 1122 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,160 if they look into health-related effects 1123 00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:19,920 they're going to encounter some of the 1124 00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,920 other weird parts 1125 00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,599 of what it means to come close to the 1126 00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:25,520 phenomenon anybody who comes close to 1127 00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,400 the phenomenon not anybody but a lot of 1128 00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,960 people have these side effects and 1129 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,200 whether it's the hitchhiker effect 1130 00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,040 poltergeist stuff people you know things 1131 00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:36,720 people don't want to talk about 1132 00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:38,880 it happens so not only do some of these 1133 00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:40,960 people get sick but then they have a lot 1134 00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,119 of paranormal activity going on around 1135 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,520 them so if they're investigating reports 1136 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,920 that stuff will come up we need to study 1137 00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:49,599 that stuff i have no doubt it's 1138 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:51,200 connected we need to study it if we want 1139 00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:52,560 to understand what the heck is going on 1140 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:54,720 with ufos because it's not just simply 1141 00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,680 studying propulsion and you know even 1142 00:44:03,109 --> 00:43:59,200 finding out who's inside is not going to 1143 00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:03,119 get us the answers we seek in my opinion 1144 00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:05,760 so in conclusion he writes as a former 1145 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:09,440 osd staffer myself i'm shocked that the 1146 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,200 deputy secretary of defense would assign 1147 00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:14,240 the uap function to an oversight staff 1148 00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,359 with no uap funding or line authority 1149 00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,200 contracting command or technical 1150 00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,599 capabilities indeed the inability of 1151 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:24,000 usdi to engage effectively on the 1152 00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:25,280 uip issue 1153 00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:27,839 is why so little has changed or been 1154 00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:31,359 accomplished since 2004. however 1155 00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,200 this is a great opportunity for you 1156 00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:35,599 senator gallego to lead to incorporate 1157 00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,839 the best of the gillibrand amendment and 1158 00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:39,359 gather the senate behind you with 1159 00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,520 legislation that can ensure genuine 1160 00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:43,280 progress and possibly an enormous 1161 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:44,800 breakthrough in the months and years 1162 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,760 ahead 1163 00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:47,200 many thanks for your leadership and your 1164 00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,839 cons consideration of my views please do 1165 00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,520 not hesitate to contact me at any time 1166 00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:53,599 sincerely and respectfully christopher 1167 00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:54,560 mellon 1168 00:45:01,829 --> 00:44:59,670 douglas dean john dean johnson said that 1169 00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,839 gallego will be involved in negotiating 1170 00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:03,359 the language between the senate and the 1171 00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,720 house so he's really important um 1172 00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,640 i hope most of that language makes it 1173 00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,480 into the final bill 1174 00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,560 and the final bill let me just talk 1175 00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:14,480 about the gillibrand amendment just 1176 00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:17,440 touch on it for some folks who don't 1177 00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:19,119 who don't know 1178 00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,160 what was in there why we were so excited 1179 00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:24,560 so basically it was co-sponsored by 1180 00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:27,440 senator lindsey graham roy blunt 1181 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:29,040 marco rubio blunt was the name i 1182 00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:31,280 couldn't remember before 1183 00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,119 marco rubio and those are all 1184 00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,040 republicans and then democrat martin 1185 00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:39,270 and 1186 00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:42,720 excuse me as i just scroll down 1187 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:44,800 and just one thing lou has said recently 1188 00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,520 that things are imminent and people are 1189 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:50,000 like oh my god imminent full disclosure 1190 00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:51,280 no i don't think he means that he just 1191 00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,800 thinks things are going to ramp up 1192 00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,560 conversation is going to take take it to 1193 00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:56,400 the next level 1194 00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,839 we're going to get an office hopefully 1195 00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:59,280 in theory if everything goes the way we 1196 00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,119 want it to that's going to study these 1197 00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,599 these ufos that doesn't mean 1198 00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,200 that we don't think that there's data 1199 00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:06,720 that's already been collected of course 1200 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,839 i believe that and i think there are 1201 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:09,520 certain people that know a hell of a lot 1202 00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:10,560 more than 1203 00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,920 what we do and there's people in the 1204 00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,280 middle that know more you know i think 1205 00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,920 it goes in stages 1206 00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,599 folks in the special access programs who 1207 00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,520 have been studying this for a very long 1208 00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,599 time have a have a 1209 00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,520 decent idea of some of what we're 1210 00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:25,200 dealing with i don't know if they know 1211 00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:26,480 intent 1212 00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:28,240 um 1213 00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:29,520 so 1214 00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,319 address people say oh you're just 1215 00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:34,240 content with what's going on now no i'm 1216 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:35,839 not i just know that we're not a large 1217 00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:38,640 enough constituency as far as ufo 1218 00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,839 twitter and all the folks who are 1219 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,599 passionate about the subject 1220 00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:43,200 to make a difference with phone calls i 1221 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,720 don't think that's we're at that level 1222 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,560 yet we will be one day 1223 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:48,079 i fully believe that but we're not i 1224 00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,160 don't think we're close to that 1225 00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,400 um so gillibrand is one of several 1226 00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:54,880 senators i think 1227 00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,040 young uh king angus king and cotton sit 1228 00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:01,520 on the senate armed services 1229 00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:04,000 senate armed services committee and the 1230 00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:07,359 senate select committee for intelligence 1231 00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:09,520 why is that important for gilliband's 1232 00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:12,880 gillibrand specifically since she made 1233 00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:15,680 she made the um amendment 1234 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:19,599 well i will show you why if i can 1235 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:21,520 pull up 1236 00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:24,480 my photos i'm sorry 1237 00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:28,640 let's see it is i'll just read 1238 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,990 here we go i can share this 1239 00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:38,480 so remember gillibrand was part of the 1240 00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:41,280 two senate select two incentives she's 1241 00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,040 on two of the senate 1242 00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,520 intelligence committees 1243 00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,520 and this was from 1244 00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:49,359 frank milburn he pulled this i think 1245 00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:53,280 it's probably from the 1246 00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,680 it's an email list jack jack sarfati has 1247 00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,280 an email list and i think this is what 1248 00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,200 think think this is what that is from so 1249 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,160 eric davis wrote 1250 00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,480 those craft are off world as i've told 1251 00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:07,040 two senate committees staff and dod 1252 00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:09,040 agencies 1253 00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,480 that's not my opinion but that's where 1254 00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:12,720 the physics and the facts lead so he he 1255 00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:13,839 briefed those 1256 00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:16,160 committees and 1257 00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,640 as christopher mellon spoke about on cnn 1258 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,640 the subject of crash retrievals came up 1259 00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,880 that's why i believe and maybe other 1260 00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,160 people spoke to them about crash 1261 00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,000 retrievals but eric is the point man for 1262 00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:30,400 that and that's why that came up i think 1263 00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:32,079 that's why that language is in the gila 1264 00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,960 brand amendment 1265 00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,880 and i want to get back to just touching 1266 00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:38,720 on some of what the gillibrand amendment 1267 00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:41,680 says why we're so excited about it 1268 00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,079 i covered most of it 1269 00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:46,720 just a couple more things 1270 00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:49,599 and it's now called the anomaly 1271 00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:51,920 surveillance tracking and resolution 1272 00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,079 office astro they added in the tracking 1273 00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,400 part so we have a nice acronym 1274 00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:58,720 um and in in her amendment she goes we 1275 00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:01,520 may be dealing with balloons drones 1276 00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:03,920 and the unknown 1277 00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,599 and it includes 1278 00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,440 reporting incidents and adverse 1279 00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,839 physiological effects also includes you 1280 00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:11,920 know we talk about ufos going on the 1281 00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:14,960 water us usos unidentified submersible 1282 00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,160 objects includes 1283 00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,160 coordinating with agencies including the 1284 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,640 national ocean oceanic and atmospheric 1285 00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:24,400 administration 1286 00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:25,599 so 1287 00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:27,920 you know noah would be involved and no 1288 00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:31,440 later than october 31st 2022 1289 00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:42,079 annually thereafter until october 31st 1290 00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:45,200 2026 the director in consultation with 1291 00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,480 the secretary 1292 00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:48,240 shall submit to the appropriate 1293 00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,720 committees of congress a report on uap i 1294 00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:52,160 think she means the director of national 1295 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:53,680 intelligence 1296 00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:00,710 each report shall be submitted in 1297 00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,280 unclassified form but may include a 1298 00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:04,960 classified annex so that's why we get to 1299 00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,640 see some of it hopefully it's going to 1300 00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,800 be more meaty than the nine pages we had 1301 00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:10,319 in june 1302 00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,079 most important part they will conduct 1303 00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:14,079 field investigations of incidents 1304 00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:15,839 involving uap 1305 00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:18,559 go out and talk to the witnesses 1306 00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:19,839 see if they were injured see if they 1307 00:50:24,549 --> 00:50:22,400 have other experiences related to their 1308 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,559 close encounters which they will it's 1309 00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,400 going to come up 1310 00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,680 they will be 1311 00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:29,280 calling for the testing of materials 1312 00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:31,200 this is all in the gila brand amendment 1313 00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,880 testing of materials and development of 1314 00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:34,800 theoretical models to better understand 1315 00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:37,760 and explain uap an update on any efforts 1316 00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:40,480 to capture or exploit discovered ufos 1317 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,839 crash retrievals 1318 00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,680 an assessment of any health related 1319 00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:45,599 effects for individuals who encountered 1320 00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:47,839 who have encountered ufos 1321 00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,920 ufos associated with military nuclear 1322 00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,839 assets including strategic nuclear 1323 00:50:55,349 --> 00:50:53,520 weapons and nuclear powered ships and 1324 00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,359 submarines 1325 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,280 she wants to know instances in which 1326 00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:59,760 data was not shared 1327 00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:00,960 if it wasn't shared because of 1328 00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,359 classification restrictions or on the 1329 00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:05,599 data or for any other region reason in 1330 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:06,640 other words 1331 00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,640 uh yeah we went uh we went to boeing or 1332 00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,079 we went to lockheed today and we were 1333 00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:12,319 told they have uh they have materials 1334 00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:14,240 from a crashed ufo and 1335 00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:15,599 they said we didn't have a proper need 1336 00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,520 to know so you need to know that and we 1337 00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,880 need to figure out how to get in there 1338 00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:20,960 because it's a government paid for 1339 00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:23,920 program and right now we have no 1340 00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:26,240 oversight and she has mentioned how no 1341 00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:27,920 oversight is not acceptable how can it 1342 00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:30,000 be acceptable to anybody a senator or 1343 00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,599 congressman or president to not have 1344 00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,440 oversight on something nope sorry it's 1345 00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:35,359 only a small amount of people and you're 1346 00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:37,119 not on that list either is the president 1347 00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,319 sorry 1348 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,559 i can't see any politician being okay 1349 00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:41,839 with that especially somebody who's 1350 00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:44,240 sharp senator gillibrand strikes me as 1351 00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:46,480 somebody who's sharp and this language 1352 00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,079 and her staffers christopher mellon said 1353 00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:50,480 she has some really good staffers so her 1354 00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:51,520 staffers 1355 00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:54,160 probably probably were the ones who were 1356 00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:56,720 involved when the briefing took place 1357 00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,920 i was told they took very copious notes 1358 00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:01,440 uh 1359 00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,800 so i'm saying if they go into the field 1360 00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:04,319 and interview witnesses who claim to see 1361 00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:06,319 orbs or beings you know 1362 00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:07,440 how are they going to classify that 1363 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,200 information i'll be very curious to see 1364 00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:11,200 is that going to be classified and we 1365 00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:17,430 and i'm trying to see if there's 1366 00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:20,160 anything else 1367 00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:20,590 um 1368 00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,000 [Music] 1369 00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:24,319 oh yeah billy cox wrote 1370 00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:27,119 a great article which i need to link to 1371 00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:28,640 and he said gillibrand's language is 1372 00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:30,640 enjoying critically important 1373 00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,559 white man sponsorship and a lot of 1374 00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:35,119 people said why is he saying that well 1375 00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:37,280 you look at the senate and 1376 00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,880 the makeup of the senate you know things 1377 00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:40,400 are changing but it's still dominated by 1378 00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,520 white old older white men um he's 1379 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,440 enjoying critically she her gillibrand 1380 00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:47,040 amendment is enjoying critically 1381 00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:48,480 important white man sponsorship from 1382 00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,400 lindsey graham blunt rubio heinrich 1383 00:52:58,030 --> 00:52:54,480 this should should this overdue 1384 00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,040 blueprint for accountability known as 1385 00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:01,200 sa47337 become law 1386 00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:05,520 look for our unelected as yet unnamed 1387 00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:08,559 and likely corporate guardians 1388 00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,960 of the status quo to make a run for the 1389 00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:12,720 vomitoria 1390 00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:15,599 their vet noir which is something 1391 00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,160 they don't like will be a legislative 1392 00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:20,880 intention known as astro 1393 00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:22,960 the anomaly surveillance tracking and 1394 00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,800 resolution office he said azrael but i 1395 00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,480 added in the t because it changed since 1396 00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,480 he wrote this astro's unprecedented 1397 00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,040 authority is guaranteed to piss off more 1398 00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:33,680 than a few turf-obsessed barons of 1399 00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:35,920 existing bureaucracies but military and 1400 00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,319 civilian it's even looking like the 1401 00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,559 squishy air force will have to strap on 1402 00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,040 a happy face 1403 00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,359 and uh that's billy you need to read his 1404 00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:47,359 articles he's under-appreciated he 1405 00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,119 doesn't promote his own stuff so people 1406 00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,520 don't know about it he's worse than i am 1407 00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:52,960 you know when i when it comes to me 1408 00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,079 promoting 1409 00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:56,240 my patreon and paypal and that stuff i'm 1410 00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:58,960 really bad at it and it it hurts me but 1411 00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:01,119 you know i'm more i'm focused on this 1412 00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,559 stuff 1413 00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:04,160 as much as i need money to pay bills i 1414 00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,680 focus on this stuff but i have to push 1415 00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:07,920 the other stuff too unfortunately uh 1416 00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:10,000 billy's favorite part of the gila brand 1417 00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:11,520 amendment and i did not notice this the 1418 00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:13,280 first time he says 1419 00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:14,720 the gillibrand amendment wants them to 1420 00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,160 figure out the intentions of uap 1421 00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:23,630 is this where the clergy comes in or 1422 00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:25,440 geneticists you know that's where we're 1423 00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:27,280 gonna i think go outside of the 1424 00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:31,990 another thing the gillibrand proposal 1425 00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,880 would oh this is from billy billy cox 1426 00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:36,640 the gila brand of proposal would also 1427 00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,559 enlist the expertise of the american 1428 00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:40,640 institute of aeronautics 1429 00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:43,520 aeronautics and aeronautics 1430 00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:46,960 i'm obviously missing something 1431 00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,359 the american institute of aeronautics 1432 00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:51,119 and astronautics 1433 00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:52,400 expertise expertise 1434 00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,760 will be enlisted 1435 00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,680 and billy says that will call [\h__\h] 1436 00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,440 on the united states air force's 1437 00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:00,000 decision to bail on ufo research for 1438 00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:03,119 lack of compelling evidence that's back 1439 00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:04,799 when blue book was killed because of 1440 00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:07,200 condon the condom committee 1441 00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:08,799 so that group 1442 00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:11,839 which called that was the aiaa they 1443 00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:13,359 called [\h__\h] on the air force back 1444 00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,920 then i did not know that and now they're 1445 00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,359 going to be working 1446 00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:19,119 with the new office and they're going to 1447 00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,799 be relied upon with their expertise 1448 00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:22,400 which is a great shot to the air force 1449 00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:23,920 who was still 1450 00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:26,000 very quiet on this you know they were 1451 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:27,599 they they updated their efforts of 1452 00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:30,160 reporting i think the navy did it in 1453 00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:33,680 2019 so there so the pilots could report 1454 00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:35,680 ufo activity that they've encountered i 1455 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:38,000 think the air force did it in 1456 00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,839 november i think or september of 20 1457 00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:42,880 20 1458 00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:47,280 report 1459 00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:50,960 the scu is involved as billy noticed us 1460 00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:57,349 robert powell and a lot of other really 1461 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:02,150 i'm trying to think of the ses that what 1462 00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,240 it stands for the coalition to study 1463 00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:06,160 ufology and i'm not getting that right 1464 00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:07,839 so that's great they're involved but 1465 00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:10,559 cycop which is a group of debunkers 1466 00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:12,799 which randy the amazing randy used to be 1467 00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:14,799 a part of they're not anywhere to be 1468 00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:17,599 found so see at the bunkers we have no 1469 00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,960 need for that 1470 00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:20,240 we're trying to tell people people like 1471 00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:21,760 well we need skeptics yeah we need 1472 00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,480 skeptics we don't need the bunkers 1473 00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:26,400 billy says the pushback will come from 1474 00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:28,799 vested interests to whom exposure could 1475 00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:31,760 spell existential peril and that's when 1476 00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,040 we'll find out if astro is real 1477 00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:37,440 that's the summary um 1478 00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:38,880 we've got a long way to go even if we 1479 00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,440 get all the language from astro into the 1480 00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:43,280 ndaa and it gets in there and everything 1481 00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:45,760 we want stays still we have a still a 1482 00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:48,720 very long way to go um but it's a start 1483 00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,680 and 1484 00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,359 unless we have access to all of the 1485 00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,680 historical data which eric davis and 1486 00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,520 jeremy corbell have spoken about exist 1487 00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,119 in the data warehouse we're not talking 1488 00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:59,119 about the awesome data warehouse that 1489 00:57:02,069 --> 00:57:00,799 valet was a part of talking about 1490 00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:02,079 something different 1491 00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,880 unless we get access access to that data 1492 00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,480 in the meantime we're basically starting 1493 00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:08,000 over that's kind of what we're doing but 1494 00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:09,200 we need to see 1495 00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,880 what's been collected and not shown to 1496 00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,400 us you know lou said that there are 1497 00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,960 people in the pentagon and i think 1498 00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:16,240 other folks have said yeah there are 1499 00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:17,359 there are groups in the pentagon 1500 00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,440 agencies that say we have ufo data but 1501 00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:21,119 nobody came and asked us for it so 1502 00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,359 that's unacceptable um 1503 00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,760 so it's a great time for folks involved 1504 00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:27,839 in ufos i never thought we'd get 1505 00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:30,559 anywhere close to this started in 2017 1506 00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:32,240 thanks to tom delong providing a landing 1507 00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:34,480 spot for lou and chris and other people 1508 00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:35,520 um 1509 00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,799 and now they're working behind the 1510 00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,160 scenes lou and chris 1511 00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,720 working their butts off to try to get 1512 00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:42,400 our representatives educated on the 1513 00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,079 subject and i really have nothing 1514 00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:45,920 negative to say right now 1515 00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:47,520 it's we still have a long way to go 1516 00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,920 we've made progress long long way to go 1517 00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:51,599 it's a marathon not a sprint as lewis 1518 00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:54,319 said um so hopefully you guys like this 1519 00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,359 did an hour um 1520 00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:59,520 like i said my one source thinks that 1521 00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:00,880 new office 1522 00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:07,270 will not exist very long hopefully 1523 00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:09,119 they're right hopefully they just 1524 00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:11,920 disband and the gillibrand effort takes 1525 00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,079 center stage and we go from there so 1526 00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:16,400 everybody have a good night and uh 1527 00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:17,839 i don't know when i'll do a video again 1528 00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:20,079 but probably soon thanks for listening 1529 00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,440 oh 1530 00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:23,680 before i go see i forgot i forgot to do 1531 00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,319 it all the time 1532 00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:29,040 if you want to support this effort first 1533 00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:30,880 of all that's my blog and that's me on 1534 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:32,400 twitter which i do a lot of work on 1535 00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:33,520 twitter 1536 00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,880 um 1537 00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,720 if you want to support the effort that's 1538 00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:39,119 my paypal 1539 00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,040 venmo which is preferred because venmo 1540 00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:43,359 does not take a percentage and then 1541 00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,599 patreon which i have not received many 1542 00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:48,400 patreon new folks in a while um if you 1543 00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,760 wanna 1544 00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:51,599 contribute to that if you like this and 1545 00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:53,200 twitter and the blog which i'm working 1546 00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,960 to finish the 1547 00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:56,559 the youtube interview i did with colin 1548 00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,839 keller her nap and i also have 1549 00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,359 transcripts from other shows they did 1550 00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:02,400 and just take me forever